Tuesday, February 5, 2013

How much should we worry? Plenty!

The following article appeared on January 22, 2013! Emphasis (bold) has been added by me.

Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens”

Shock claim purported to come from “one of America’s foremost military heroes”

(Prison Planet) – 2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens. Garrow was nominated three years ago for the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize and is the founder of The Pink Pagoda Girls, an organization dedicated to rescuing baby girls from “gendercide” in China. Garrow has been personally involved in “helping rescue more than 36,000 Chinese baby girls from death.”

He is a public figure, not an anonymous voice on the Internet, which makes his claim all the more disturbing. “I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”

Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny. It also follows reports on Sunday that General James Mattis, head of the United States Central Command, “is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.” Concerns over US troops being given orders to fire on American citizens in the event of mass gun confiscation first arose in 1995 when hundreds of Marines at 29 Palms, California were given a survey as part of an academic project by Navy Lieutenant Commander Ernest Guy Cunningham which asked the Marines if they would, “Fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government.”

The survey was subsequently leaked because many of the Marines who took it were shocked by the tone of the question. The US Military has clearly outlined innumerable civil emergency scenarios under which troops would be authorized to fire on U.S. citizens. In July 2012, the process by which this could take place was made clear in a leaked US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” (PDF) dating from 2006. Similar plans were also outlined in an updated manual released in 2010 entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations. The 2006 document outlines how military assets will be used to “help local and state authorities to restore and maintain law and order” in the event of mass riots, civil unrest or a declaration of martial law.

On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” on American soil are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a, “Warning shot will not be fired.” Given that second amendment advocates are now being depicted as dangerous terrorists by the federal government and local law enforcement, Garrow’s claim is sure to stoke controversy given that Americans are seeing their gun rights eviscerated while the federal government itself stockpiles billions of bullets.

Last week, Gloversville Mayor Dayton King warned that any federal gun confiscation program could lead to a “Waco-style standoff” in rural areas of America.

(Source:) http://www.prisonplanet.com/nobel-peace-prize-nominee-obama-asks-military-leaders-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens.html


Maverick50 said...

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Gus said...

When the U.S.A. has a President who wants to shred the Second Amendment, why should we think he will pay attention to the Fourth?

And what about Sen. Feinstein? And others?

Mike said...

Any military leader who answers yes should remember a few things. First, there are a large number of people who whould not put up with that and there are more US citizens than there are military personnel. They should not believe for one minute that bullets dont fly both directions should they try that.

Mike said...

Any officer who would respond yes should remember that bullets can fly both ways. Also there are more civillians in the US than military personnel, many of whom would probably refuse to fire on their neighbors and family. Dont think for one minute that a small under armed group cant stop a large well equiped military. Ifu believe so remember Viet Nam.

yagottabekidding said...

Wow! Some people will believe anything. The internet is a great source of information-both good and bad, factual and not so much. Dig a little further.

Richard W Gorski, M.D. said...

This could be the tipping point...of weather this country continues to be a country of law or a country of totalitarianism. I hope that all Americans and that includes 4 star officers would make the patriotic choice and affirm the oath of allegiance that they took on entering the military. They owe their allegiance and the power they have to the people...not some politician or politicians.

Clem Kadiddlehopper said...

I doubt that the US Military would obey an order to fire on US citizens absent open revolt, and, maybe, not even then.

In 1996, Marines at 29 Palms were surveyed. They were given a questionnaire, with the following qustion:

"I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the United States government."

29% answered yes, 71%n answered no.

From an Iowa daily paper:

"The Iowa National guard did a training exercise in a small town to "clear" an abandoned building... next to a gun store... through rumor the people through we had come to close the gun store and take the guns... needless to say we where very quickly outnumbered and outgunned as we quickly explained we swore and oath defend the constitution and we have the right to disobey any "Unlawful" order that conflicts with it. So if you plan to declare war on the public brace yourself because it will be ugly. You do not have people on your side."

Fromm http://carrollspaper.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=14934&TM=35600.75

In other words, Obama may order the military to fire on Americans. Some general officers may repeat the order, but it is clear that those orders may be carried out by the ordinary soldier or marine.

Richard W Gorski, M.D. said...

The main stream media...newpapers and TV have the power and resources to do the digging...that is why they and we have the First Amendment. Dig before it might be too late. The House of Congress and the Supreme Court might want to pick up a shovel and dig a little also. Their own future may very well be at stake.

Mike said...

If the idea was't out there there would be no point to that question. Now whether it was top brass trying to determine who they could count on or to see if enlisted were thinking alnong these line on their own.

Richard W Gorski, M.D. said...

What worries me is that the Department of Homeland Security has recently purchaced several million rounds of ammo. Where do they plan on using it ...on the border or on us...remember who the Sec. of Homeland Sec. takes her orders from and I have not been very impressed by her actions. I have no idea of what her intentions might be.