Thursday, September 4, 2008

Victory in Iraq


"Victory in Iraq is finally in sight." Sarah Palin 9/3/08

Is she looking in her crystal ball?

Peering through the Hubbell telescope?

Looking through her moose-hunting-at-midnight binoculars?

This one will come back to haunt her. Surely, she cannot believe that. Come on... Alaska is still in the United States, isn't it? Detached. Yes, I know. Remote. Distant. But so far out of touch?

Well, perhaps we should ask her to define "victory."

You know? We can have victory against gangs and vandalism right here in Woodstock. All we have to do is triple taxes and put a cop on everyone's front doorstep. And maybe one inside each house.

Or we could pass concealed carry in Illinois, issue FOID cards with no fee, distribute a working firearm to every law-abiding citizen 18 or older and provide a free training program on responsible and legal use. I'd give crime in Woodstock about 72 hours, and then anyone could walk anywhere (the Square included) at any time of night or day.

Hmmm, maybe that would work in Iraq.

But will the Taliban run out of suicide bombers? Probably not any time soon. We don't understand how wars of religion work.

So, Sarah. Define "victory" for us. Maybe victory for Iraqis is when the United States ends its invasion of Iraq and withdraws. Is that "victory" (for them)?

Hey, I liked some of what Sarah said. And some of it I didn't. She read very well what the speechwriters put in front of her. She could have a career in Hollywood, if she doesn't make it as VP.

Oh, about having Levi Johnston there? Bad move.

Think about this. Take McCain out of the picture (stroke, dementia, whatever). On her own, at this time, is she the person to be top dog in the White House?

Not hardly.

Mush, you huskies. Carry them back to the Yukon!

4 comments:

DownByTheRiver said...

Hey Gus, All,

GUS SAID:

**** Victory in Iraq is finally in sight." Sarah Palin 9/3/08

>>>>Is she looking in her crystal ball?

>>>>Peering through the Hubbell telescope?

>>>>Looking through her moose-hunting-at-midnight binoculars?

>>>>This one will come back to haunt her. Surely, she cannot believe that. Come on... Alaska is still in the United States, isn't it? Detached. Yes, I know. Remote. Distant. But so far out of touch?

Not so far out of touch, in my opinion. If you look at some of the most recent casualty reports, as well as reports on "domestic" violence, the per-capita "kill rate" is now about that of Trenton, NJ; Compton, CA; or Detroit, MI. Think about it.

Granted, things were a lot quieter when the whole country was under the jackboot of Sadaam, but so too, was it quieter in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus under the jackboot of Russian oppression? Now, they all have enough time to kill each other if they want, freed from the weight of having to survive being killed by orders from the top.

When you compare the Muslim mindset and their idea of what the rule of law is (can you say, “caliphate”? – There, I knew you could.), one can see it's not going to be like Woodstock over there, if ever. Sure, there is "sectarian violence" going on too, but I'll bet that the "kill rate" is lower than Belfast in the 70's.

The real worry is and should be Afghanistan. But I think that will change, too. Just this morning on the news, they announced a series of raids and attacks carried out by our troops in the borderland of Pakistan and Afghanistan, you know, where Osama is located. Now that Musharraf is gone, apparently we now feel free to act.

The current ruling party in Pakistan is pissed, and decried the lack of advance notice given them on there operations. What, do they think we're dumb? These are the same people that have been accommodating Osama and senior Al Qaeda members in that region. Had we told them, those assets that needed destroying would have simply disappeared before we showed up.

This is the group that Musharraf (and we) have been tippy-toeing around trying to keep his presidency alive. And why? Because here we have a Muslim-backed regime with control over nuclear weapons. And the thought has always been that if the military in Pakistan feels that the country is threatened, perhaps you will have a coup by the military AND the tactical use of these weapons.

Unlike in the West, most of the military in these parts and these countries' peoples do not necessarily recognize CIVIL government control, direction and power over their militaries.

>>>> Or we could pass concealed carry in Illinois,

I TOTALLY AGREE.

>>>> issue FOID cards with no fee, distribute a working firearm to every law-abiding citizen 18 or older and provide a free training program on responsible and legal use.

This has already happened. Its called Switzerland. Israel, too. Or historically, the American Frontier.

>>>> Hmmm, maybe that would work in Iraq.

In some was, it is already. There are numerous instances of local sheiks and their loyalists that are already involved in "mopping things up", and are allied with our forces.

>>>> But will the Taliban run out of suicide bombers? Probably not any time soon. We don't understand how wars of religion work.

Nor does Obama. He and the left are fixated on the Western Ideal of the "rule of law". Obama thinks that dealing with terrorists should be predicated on indictments, trials and prison, with all of the constitutional niceties that they neither deserve, nor should expect, not being citizens of the United States.

>>>> So, Sarah. Define "victory" for us. Maybe victory for Iraqis is when the United States ends its invasion of Iraq and withdraws. Is that "victory" (for them)?

And we will end overt control there soon. It's in the cards - the handwriting is on the wall. Time to get back to Afghanistan, which I also believe, will happen soon.

>>>> Hey, I liked some of what Sarah said. And some of it I didn't. She read very well what the speechwriters put in front of her

Just like Obama AND every other politician. But if you noticed, she relied less on the teleprompter and more on her own memory and the note cards she was using on the podium. (sign of an organizer) And you can't deny that her (and every other politician) influences those speeches with what it is THEY are and what THEY wish to say.

>>>> She could have a career in Hollywood, if she doesn't make it as VP.

Agree. Also, too, in the realm of (God help, me) soft porn. You know, the naughty school teacher thing she has going. LOL!

>>>> Oh, about having Levi Johnston there? Bad move.

Disagree there, too. Both parties always do the "family" thing on the stage. Whatever. In this case, the Palin campaign has stated that they the couple are keeping the baby and that the two are to marry. Whether or not they may have actually done so, they are basically engaged. He is part of the family now, so he SHOULD be there. If he were not there, that would signal embarrassment.

Instead of being embarrassed, I think the loving thing to do is to embrace your loved ones and their choices, regardless of that fact that their judgement on the matter is different from your own. If conception before wedlock is a crime, how many families and couples could withstand scrutiny? Obvious partisan slanting in the media, as far as I'm concerned. Pro Family, Pro Life.

>>>> Think about this. Take McCain out of the picture (stroke, dementia, whatever). On her own, at this time, is she the person to be top dog in the White House?

Much has been made perennially about the lack of foreign policy experience of a prospective candidate. As it is usually Governors who win party nominations, who among them has had or does have this "requisite" experience? Almost none. Ever. Some Senators, on the other hand, do. And while Biden fulfills that "requirement", he also shoots from the lip - something that can be very dangerous when it comes to diplomacy.

What is required most of all is intelligence and judgement, something I believe she possesses.

Obama obviously does not have this experience, nor do I believe he has the requisite judgment. Nor did Harry Truman, as Palin so eloquently pointed out.

I am comfortable that Palin views her job, whatever it might become, as US interests being first and foremost. I don't feel comfortable that this is how Obama views the world, nor view what his responsibility is to his country.

DBTR

woodstockmom said...

Considering there is such a biased opinion of the war from the media, I think we are all out of touch with what is actually going on with the war in Iraq.

I have spoken with actual men and women who have returned from Iraq or who are still serving and they are proud to be there. Furthur more, they wouldn't change their deployment. They have had citizens from Iraq thanking them personally for being there and feel that they owe it to those citizens to see this war through to the end.

I am not saying that those who are deployed DO NOT miss their loved ones, but more so that the media is biased in reporting information that seems to be jaded.

With that being said, I still think that the Republicans are in trouble if they do not face the economic crisis going on in our country. This needs to be addressed or they will lose support from their own party.

As for Levi being at the convention, I have a feeling there would have been criticism if he wasn't there also. So, to take the "high road" and have him as part of their family was probably the more political thing to do. At least this way it doesn't look like they are trying to hide the issue.

Gus said...

Thanks to DBTR and woodstockmom for your well-written comments.

Your remarks forward peoples' thinking.

The Palins look like a great family.

Richard W Gorski, M.D. said...

Gus,

I respectively disagree with you on just about everything you said except your right to say it. People from the time of our Founding Fathers said lets not get involved in this war or that war (including the Revolutionary War); I suspect if we just stood back and did not get involved when we saw evil being perpetrated we as a nation would not exist today. I am a lot closer to 72 years of age than 55 and my brain still funtions well and I suspect you are not a young whipper-snapper either.

Lets let them fight it out over the next 9 weeks and then let the citizens decide when they vote.

As for me, I prefer substance over rhetoric and wisdom that comes with experience and years.

Either way it goes the day after Election Day, our country is strong and resilient enought to endure any President or Vice-President after all it has endured eight years of a "do-nothing" Congress.

God Bless America!