Tuesday, January 17, 2012

That first press release about Pyle

On Saturday, January 7, McHenry County Sheriff Keith Nygren issued a statement about Greg Pyle, without naming him. In fact, it's curious whether Nygren really issued the statement, since the "statement" bears a rubber-stamp signature with no initials to indicate who stamped Keith's name on the statement.

That ground was covered previously - when you sign someone else's name, you identify yourself by your name or initials. In this case, "Someone" didn't.

You can read the statement here for yourself. Just click on the image to enlarge it; then click on the Back button on your browser to come back here.

In view of what is known now (and what must have been known when the folks at the sheriff's department learned about it on Friday night), to call it a "domestic issue" fails every test of reasonability.

What do you think of when you think of "domestic" issue? Loud voices? Maybe a pot thrown at someone? Maybe someone got pushed a little?

Now we know that MCSD Sgt. Greg Pyle has been charged with ten (count 'em: 10) counts of "Predatory Criminal Sexual Assault (Child under 13)".

Don't worry, folks. It was "just" a little domestic issue.

Did Sheriff Nygren authorize and word that "statement"? Did he approve it? Was it faxed or emailed back and forth between Woodstock and Minocqua until they got all the words in just the right order?

Who put Pyle on administrative leave? Who has that authority at MCSD? Did Undersheriff Zinke assume full responsibility on Friday evening and take action? Or was that call made from Minocqua, the official Wisconsin headquarters of the McHenry County (Ill.) Sheriff's Department?

And, since Pyle's "administrative leave" can reasonably be expected to last more than 30 days, when will the Sheriff's Department Merit Commission meet? As a "public body" its meeting must be announced 48 hours in advance, and it is open to the public. You can bet your britches that they'll run for Executive Session (they don't have to, but they will), and then they'll return to Open Session and vote to suspend Pyle without pay.

As of this morning, no Special Meeting of the Merit Commission is scheduled. Can only Sheriff Nygren call a special meeting? Can the deputy in charge of the Sheriff's Department in Nygren's absence call a special meeting? Can two of the members of the Commission call a Special Meeting?

Will Nygren immediately fire Pyle for bringing discredit to the Department? Pyle's alleged activities are certainly a lot more serious than writing a warning to a driver, which got Zane Seipler fired.

Will the sheriff use the State's Attorney's Office to defend any lawsuit by Pyle to get his job back, with back pay? Tricky, eh? - since the State's Attorney's Office will be prosecuting Pyle. Is there an outside law firm already licking its chops over more legal fees from the Sheriff's Department?

7 comments:

yagottabekidding said...

who said "just a lttle domestic incident"? You or him? How dare the sheriff not consult the Funk, Wagnalls, and Gus dictionary.

Justin said...

Gus say's "Will Nygren immediately fire Pyle for bringing discredit to the Department.......?

Presumed innocent is a key phrase here. When there are ongoing criminal charges, in most cases you can't fire someone until the court has found them guilty or the prosecution releases evidence to bring discharge charges. Check Illinois case law Gus. Start with the Illinois Peace Officer Disciplinary Act and he Peace Officers Bill of Rights.They can not question him without violating his CRIMINAL Constitutional 5th ammendments rights. Do you want them to forge ahead and screw up the ISP investiagtion?


He may be guilty as hell and yes his arrest brings discredit, but you can't hang him before a full discharge hearing and can't charge him to get him to that stage until the CRIMINAL case is done. You can't comingle the criminal and civil case without jeopardizing the criminal case. Lawful procedure must be followed not what just sounds good at the moment.

You keep harping on the Sheriff's press releases or lack thereof. The press statements come from the ISP not the Sheriff. They are the arresting agency as it should be. The sheriff would not comment on an ISP investigation. Just because it is an employee of the county does not give the the county a voice in announcing charges.

I have withheld comments to this point but please note you can not take away an officers pay status unless they charge him with disciplinary charges requesting discharge and that WILL NOT happen until until the ISP ties a ribbon on the CRIMINAL CHARGES and the SAO gives the nod to share evidence for discharge.DON'T HOLD YOU BREATH.

Check with "employee law" attorney and or check some public employee law websites before making these bold statements. You only look foolish to people that KNOW the law.

Lastly, did you ever think that maybe a MCSO representative was present with the ISP when the ISP searched the house to obtain MCSO property not seized by the ISP for the criminal case?

Gus said...

There is this little thing called General Orders. So, IF they wanted to, they could kick Pyle's butt out for violating regulations. Totally separate from the criminal charges.

That's IF they wanted to.

Info Getter said...

Hey Gus, didn’t you hear a thing he said in his post!!! I swear you always try to act like you know everything. General orders have nothing to do with it at this point when it comes to a criminal case. JUST STOP IT!!! Let the law take its course and quit trying to clout the situation because you think it is being handled wrong, or not the way you want it handled.

Info Getter said...

And what if they” KICK HIM OUT ON HIS BUT” as you want big shot, and all charges get dropped or dismissed (let’s hope not if it is all true) then hear comes another lawsuit, to which you can bitch about the money being spent or why didn’t they do this or why did this happen! Just stifle it Gus and let justice work! It’s not your favorite Department handling the case so have confidence.

Gus said...

Come on, we both know that administrative action for violation of General Orders can be taken completely independently of the criminal case against Pyle.

Gus said...

Keep rubbing the bottle with the genie in it. You might have a couple of wishes still left.