I confess ... I didn't do it.
There was a big shoot-out in Richmond yesterday. At the Associated Bank.
There must be a WHOLE LOT more to the story than we've been fed so far.
The Northwest Herald said "authorities were called to the site about 11:30 a.m." OK, what "authorities"? Richmond P.D.? Were those the police cars that Leif Anderson saw? Why do I doubt that police cars from several other departments sped by about 30 seconds after he heard shots fired?
If you read the Chicago Tribune, it appears the FBI had followed the men west on I-90 and maybe north on Ill. Route 31 to Wisconsin, then back into Illinois to Richmond. The article in the Tribune is much more complete than today's article in the Northwest Herald.
The Northwest Herald reports "a shootout between FBI agents and men the bureau suspects were planning on robbing the bank." I can imagine the suspects' lawyers' chomping at the bit already. Lawsuits will be filed Monday morning, I'll bet, accusing the FBI of murdering one man and arresting two other "innocent" people. But how will they address the confession of one of the surviving suspects, who appeared waived his Miranda Rights and talked.
From the photograph in the paper, it looks like they were still in their car when the gun battle erupted. The car must have been in gear and the emergency brake not on for it to roll and stop as it did. The Chicago Tribune reports that one of the suspects was shot to death after he rammed an FBI agent's car.
If the gun battle took place at 11:30am, why did it take the McHenry County Sheriff's Department over two hours (1:44PM) to broadcast a NIXLE message to avoid Highway 12 north of 173?
If the FBI followed bank robbery suspects into McHenry County, why didn't the FBI notify the McHenry County Sheriff's Department? Were they afraid that their presence might be leaked? One reader posed that question to me today. It's common for agencies to work together with local law enforcement, but it could be that Federal agencies are skittish now about notifying our Sheriff's Department. (If you don't know why, ask.)
And why did the FBI haul the two arrested suspects to Winnebago County Jail, as I read in an earlier article, instead of temporarily housing them in the McHenry County Jail? The suspects appeared in Federal Court in Chicago this morning, according to the Chicago Tribune. Are the Feds avoiding McHenry County for some reason?
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3 months ago
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Not Winnebago COUNTY jail. It's the Federal pokey in Rockford, also IN Winnebago County.
Usually the Fed's lock up people in Boone County Jail or Winnebago County Jail while awaiting hearings in US Fed Court in Rockford
Heck, all I know is what the Chicago Tribune reported that the spokeswoman for the FBI said:
"Though the investigation was out of the FBI's Chicago office, the two suspects were taken to Winnebago County Jail in Rockford, where the agency has a satellite office, Hyde said."
Yes, I figured they'd be taken to near Rockford and hauled into court there today. So I was surprised to read that they were in court in Chicago today.
Maybe the Fed judges don't work Saturdays in Rockford.
Gus, let me try to help.
As to your question about the 30 second time frame and the Richmond PD as well as other Departments being there. More than likely a citzen heard the shots or witnessed the incident and called 911. Cars from other departments more than likely received the call as well and went to assist. It is very common for other agencies to jump in and help.
Lawyers chomping at the bit. So what. No big deal. Lawsuits are filed everyday and in virtually every single police shooting no matter how rightious the shooting is. And of course the lawyers are going to say the FBI murdered their client. And the MSM will play along and broadcast it. If I had a dollar for every law suit filed against me I'd be rich.
Why did it take the MCSO two hours to broadcast a NIXLE message about route 12? I think they probably had more pressing issues to deal with. Like bank robbers. And who would have heard it besides the two people that listen to it?
Why didn't the FBI alert the MCSO about what they wwere doing? That would never happen. The "G" never tells local law enforcement about what they are doing until they poop hits the fan. Then they scream for our help. Plus, the last thing you would want to do in a surveillance is tell local PD's. Nothing sinister about it but if you do, every cop within fifty miles will want to drive by to see what's going on, probably right into the surveillance therby blowing that surveillance. BTDT. Not drive into a surveillance but have mine blown by nosy uniformed coppers who can't resist.
This was more than likely a joint FBI-local bank robbery task force operation. Those task forces's include FBI,county,state and local Officers.
Why Winnebago County? Who knows but there are a host of reasons, none having to do with anything sinister at McHenry county.
Gus, btw, I am not, was not and never will be employed by the MCSO. Just sayin.
Big Daddy, thanks!
The Winnebago County Jail makes sense for proximity to the Fed's Rockford courthouse, where the suspects will appear this week. I wonder if they hauled them into Chicago for an in-person appearance yesterday morning, or used a video link.
Nice that the one guy ran off at the mouth. Anybody, even caught red-handed, has to be stupid to waive his Miranda rights and talk.
I smiled at your reference to joint task force operations. Couldn't help but to think of the DEA surveillance that got blown, when Zinke went to Brian Goode.
I've read bits ad pieces about that case and it is interesting.
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