Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Interesting coincidence

Yesterday a reader sent me a link to a news article about the militarizing of police, and what should appear on the front page of this morning's Northwest Herald? A picture of MARV, the "mobile armored rescue vehicle" of the McHenry County Sheriff's Department.

Photo date: 8/24/05
MARV was pressed into action during a Cary stand-off, along with the S.W.A.T. team. The boys got to go and play yesterday. How was the stand-off resolved? A friend of Frank Vantrepotte, 35, was talking to him on the phone and asked him to step outside and surrender.

How did MARV get from Woodstock to Cary? Was it driven there?

When I viewed MARV last year at a publicity function at the Woodstock Harley-Davidson dealership, I noticed that there were no license plates on MARV. At the time I wondered how it got to the dealership, but I didn't ask. It didn't look "street legal" to me. I could not see any windshield wipers, and the lights didn't appear to meet the Illinois Vehicle Code.

So, can MARV be operated legally on streets and roads in Illinois? The answer is a simple Yes or No.

And, if the answer is No, then why is it being operated on streets and roads? Because no cop is brave enough to ticket the operator of MARV?

You may have read the news article about tickets placed on fire trucks n Pittsburgh while firefighters were getting flu shots. The firetrucks were parked illegally in permit-only spaces reserved for City Council members. The Mayor, Luke Ravenstahl, was wrong when he said tickets should not have been issued.

Getting a flu shot is something that employees take care of on personal time. Yet Pittsburgh firefighters drove City fire trucks to City Hall to get their shots.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I thought vehicles like that MARV (aka Tank) got hauled to the location on a trailor. Whatever, at least I know my rustbucket couldn't tow it... I'm lucky enough that it can haul my 400 lb girth around to the various neighborhood liquor stores.
I'm sure there's some stipuation that it doesnt need a license plate or registration. The real question here is why do we need a Tank in McHenry County? Are you, Gus, such a big threat that the County must muscle up some armor? BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

Notawannabee said...

Before you waste anymore of your energy spouting about the MAVR traveling down the road unlicensed. Note that it does not require license plates OR a title under Illinois law. Just as a farm tractor or crane does not need a license the MARV is exempt. Furthermore, there are other SWAT and TACTICAL Units with special SWAT vehicles that fall under the same exemption. Besides that, the plates on public vehicles are provided by the state without fee.

BTW the MARV is escorted using marked squads.


(625 ILCS 5/3 102) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 3 102)
Sec. 3 102. Exclusions.
No certificate of title need be obtained for:

7. Special mobile equipment;

(625 ILCS 5/3 402) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 3 402)
Sec. 3 402. Vehicles subject to registration; exceptions.
A. Exemptions and Policy. Every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer and pole trailer when driven or moved upon a highway shall be subject to the registration and certificate of title provisions of this Chapter except:
(3) Any special mobile equipment as herein defined;



(625 ILCS 5/1 191) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 1 191)
Sec. 1 191. Special mobile equipment. Every vehicle not designed or used primarily for the transportation of persons or property and only incidentally operated or moved over a highway, including but not limited to: street sweepers, ditch digging apparatus, well boring apparatus and road construction and maintenance machinery such as asphalt spreaders, bituminous mixers, bucket loaders, tractors other than truck tractors, ditchers, levelling graders, finishing machines, motor graders, road rollers, scarifiers, earth moving carryalls and scrapers, power shovels and drag lines, and self propelled cranes and earth moving equipment. The term does not include house trailers, dump trucks, truck mounted transit mixers, cranes or shovels, or other vehicles designed for the transportation of persons or property to which machinery has been attached.

Gus said...

But does MARV really need license plates, according to the statute quoted by Notawannabe?

The Secretary of State Police in Rockford quoted me part of the same statute about "Special mobile equipment" today.

How glad I am that Notawannabe quoted the statute in full. He made my point. Just read the final sentence in the statute. This is why every word is important.

"The term ("Special mobile equipment") does not include house trailers, dump trucks, truck mounted transit mixers, cranes or shovels, or other vehicles designed for the transportation of persons or property to which machinery has been attached."

MARV is certainly a vehicle "designed for the transportation of persons ..."

Thanks, Notawannabe!

Mike said...

Every vehicle not designed or used primarily for the transportation of persons or property and only incidentally operated or moved over a highway, including but not limited to:

"INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO"

what was that?

"INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO"

I doubt the State Police or Secretary of State will be biusting down the doors of the Sheriff's Office.

I agree the statute seems pretty clear