Monday, October 29, 2007

Backing from Driveway in Woodstock

Earlier today I posted, and then deleted, an article about a traffic jam on Route 47. Two readers commented quickly that the two officers on the scene were blocking a lane of traffic to protect a power line that had dropped to possibly interfere with southbound truck traffic.

A third reader commented on a backing maneuver which he believed I had made this afternoon. He seems to think I live somewhere I don’t but, for the sake of discussion, I’ll refer to his issue.

When a driver backs out of a driveway on a residential street in Woodstock, what is the proper way to do it? More importantly, what might be an illegal way to do it?

Let’s assume the driveway is mid-block on a residential street with no moving traffic. You back in the driveway and stop before crossing the sidewalk. Then what?

Depending on which direction of travel you intend, you might back to your right with the right side of your car parallel to the near curb, and then proceed “down” the street without crossing the centerline.

But what if you want to go “up” the street? Can you, or should you, back across the near lane of traffic and back “to your left”, so that when you straighten out, you can go “up” the street? Or can you back out of the driveway and back to your left on the near side of the street, and then, as you start forward, cross the centerline as quickly as possible to get on the right (correct) side of the street and proceed “up” the street?

A phone call tonight to the Woodstock Police Department resulted in one clear answer and one “maybe”. The clear answer was that a driver could back out of his driveway across the near lane and across the center line, and then go “up” the street. The “maybe” was that it might be illegal to back out of the driveway and to the left on the near side of the street, and then promptly and entirely cross the center of the roadway to go “up” the street, because this would cause your vehicle to be facing the wrong way in an oncoming direction of travel.

All of the above assume that there is no moving traffic in the block of your driveway.

Until the question was raised by the reader, whose comment was removed only because I deleted the article about the blocked lane of traffic on Route 47, I thought it seemed safer to back to the left without crossing the centerline and then drive quickly to the right side of the street. Understanding now that might be illegal (and being told tonight that there aren’t many State traffic laws about backing), I’ll drop that maneuver. I myself don’t like the idea of backing across a lane of traffic, even on a residential street, so I’ll just turn so that I can go down the street and use side streets to reverse my direction of travel.

If you are not totally confused by all this, would you like to comment on how you would back out of your driveway, in order to travel away from home using the lane on the opposite side of your street?

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

I may have "believed" your residence was incorrect, your vehicle is in front of it about as much as mine is in front of my residence, but the backing manuver was actually seen. Your car, you were driving. I was taught in drivers ed. some thirty years ago, and I believe it is still taught,that when backing your vehicle should end up proerly positioned in the correct lane for the direction you wish to travel (is that a simpler description?). No mention was made in my class about being able to do whatever you wanted to if no traffic was present. Do as I say not as I do?With your record concerning local law enforcement you may be flirting with a citation for inattentive driving. Sorry about the residence thing though that may explain why the woman who is always walking her dog down the middle of the street never gets "outed" or referred to the police wink-wink.

Anonymous said...

Gus, I saw you do this too. I was there to. I'm sure it was you. You drive a maroon Porsche 928 and have long black hair you keep in a pony tail, no? Let's get this settled and move on....

Anonymous said...

mommy, mommy, there picking on me.......

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Anonymous said...

Back to the original subject. Wasn't Gus teaching a safe driving course to seniors? I haven't taken it and do not know anyone who has so I am unsure. When I got my license points were taken off if you did a three point turnaround as he says he does. Could explain why some seniors drive as they do.

Anonymous said...

Can we sitck to the topic please? What does the above (extremely long) have to do with backing up from a driveway in Woodstock???

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER McIllegal School reports MRSA today. In addition to Illegalstock and several other recently announced schools, Dundee Highlands Elementary School has been contaminated:

http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2007/10/31/news/local/doc47281345190b2127630401.txt

People, are you going to let your children die or become disfigured because we are too lazy to enforce Illegal immigration laws??

Have we truly become a nation of spineless, ignorant, sacrifice-our-children-on-the-alter-of-pro-Illegal-immigration citizens????

It is time to ask Ellyn Wreski, D-200 Super., what her policy is regarding Illegals (young or old) entering school griounds or facilities! Does she even care???

Anonymous said...

How do you gain resistance to a particular disease, bacteria or virus? through exposure. Why do you think the staph bacteria doesn't kill the Hispanics (if you believe that is where it is coming from)? Too many lazy doctors prescribing antibiotics to too many impatient people. Too many clueless moms and dads slathering antibacterial everything on their kids. Let them get dirty. Let them get sick. they will probably be healthier in the long run.

Gus said...

I deleted the long, copied comments on MRSA, only because they were not original.

Three-point turns? Did I, or anyone, say I made a three-point turn? So far as I know, they aren't illegal if made in a safe stretch of roadway.

Hey, how about this one? Is it legal to make a U-turn at a traffic light? You know, around an island? Who knows the answer to this one?

Anonymous said...

Sorry, mister hyper-right. three point turn was the wrong term for what I was trying to say. Points were taken off your drivers test for making the driveway backing error you did.

Gus said...

Three-point turns are good turns to know how to make. They are efficient, whether made in a forward movement or by backing. I'll be checking with the State Police about the backing turn from a driveway. All I care to know if whether it is illegal. If it is, then I won't make it. If it's not illegal, I'll use it, whether it's popular or not. Legal or illegal; that's what counts. Oh, yes; it has to be made safely.
Actually, what you said was that you recalled losing points on your driver's test 30 years ago for making a turn the examiner didn't like. It might not even have been illegal.
I had examiners and a manager at the Woodstock DMV tell me that making a left turn into the two-way left-turn lane onto Route 47 was illegal, even after the State Police told me that it wasn't. For my money, the State Police know the traffic laws much better than the driver's license examiners.

Anonymous said...

I didn't lose points on my drivers test because I was taught the correct way to make the turn and knew that I was expected to make the correct turn on my driving test. Good luck getting the State Police to respond to all of your sic-em's. They have to be as tired of your Gomerisms as the locals.

Gus said...

Actually, the State Police very often confirm my understanding of traffic laws. If one reads all of the words in the law and pays attention to punctuation, the traffic laws are quite clear. P.S., Gomer told me he is proud to be associated with the one other law-and-order resident in Woodstock.

Anonymous said...

Don't get too close to the edge of your pedestal. You've gotten yourself pretty high and you might get hurt when you fall off.

Anonymous said...

Back INTO the driveway. You probably have far fewer kids, cars, bicycle riders and dog walkers in your driveway than in the street and on the sidewalk. Then, when you come out, they won't be in one of those annoying rear-view blind spots. It makes it easier to get your battery jumped on a cold winter morning, too.